Forestry fire risk

Discussion in 'Professional Fireworks' started by Pyrotrev, Jun 7, 2018.

  1. Pyrotrev

    Pyrotrev Pro Firer/Crew

    With the current spell of warm dry weather, one of our regular shows is starting to alarm me a bit. If this NE wind stops in (which it's forecast to do), the drift line is over some forestry, normally not a problem as at this time of year the trees are in spring growth, and besides which up here in the NortWest it's generally damp anyway. However this year, the forest floor is VERY dry, and i see a potential fire risk - or am I being too cautious???
    (BTW obviously no drossy stuff in the show anyway)
  2. elmo

    elmo Pro Firer/Crew

    Can you be ‘too’ cautious ??
    If you can, have a couple of spotters in there with water while you fire and keep an eye on it directly after , we are fast approaching the dry summer crops season which proves to be a pain at many venues........ roll on October ;)
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  3. Mathew Griffiths

    Mathew Griffiths Pro Firer/Crew

    Just Be careful with brocades especially brocade and willow shells, but be prepared and have crew on stand by with plenty of water you should be ok! I've seen so many displays in Spain and south France fire near wooded surroundings where it's been completely dry for months
  4. AtomFireworks

    AtomFireworks Pro Firer/Crew

    Hows tricks Trev?

    Is there a lake near by? Up your neck of the woods theres a good chance there will be, if so I would suggest pumping water up on to the forestry floor if it is feasable, damping down would massivley reduce the risk.

    I have a show soon that presents a similar risk, luckily we have a working tap right at the display site so it is in the RA to damp down if the ground is dry.

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  5. Pyrotrev

    Pyrotrev Pro Firer/Crew

    Funny aftermath to this one. Thankfully got a bit of rain earlier in the day, so set off feeling much better. Get to the site and something's changed......they'd recently harvested all the forestry, just a few broken branches and mud left :tssr:
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  6. Pyro Pete

    Pyro Pete UKFR Editor

    ROFL did you start a fire anyway in protest? :D
  7. RocketRev

    RocketRev Moderator Supports UKFR

    That's a pretty extreme way of answering your prayers @Pyrotrev , but effective, nevertheless! :)
  8. 20 pumps needed:-

    Take care out there.

    And an almost-certain need to involve the fire authority for any displays during this drought as there will be negligence issues should a firework-related fire occur without that approval.

    As we are all are aware, the Health and Safety people nowadays will prosecute for any and all infringements and the fines are high.

    And your insurers will probably refuse to renew.
  9. scoops

    scoops Pro Firer/Crew

    Unfortunately I think any decent risk assessment would highlight at the moment, a high risk of fire due to fall out, malfunction product or post firing product fire; I would say that unless you're fallout zone and firing site is green, you can guarantee your predicted fz will not change due to wind etc or you have a decent fire fighting strategy available then your show shouldn't go ahead. There are other causes of fires too to consider such as arson, cans or bottles discarded in area surrounding site etc which could see you being blamed for initially if they occured post firing.
    Sorry but that's the truth of it imo
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  10. Illusion Fireworks

    Illusion Fireworks British Firework Champions 2018

    The fire near Marlow is only about 20 mins from me, we could see the smoke from Wallingford.