GOLD LABEL The King rockets

Discussion in 'Fireworks Nostalgia, Collectables And History' started by TGR, Dec 14, 2018.

  1. TGR

    TGR

    A mate of mine has two of these for sale but is unsure of value. Any of you wise chaps and chapesses shed any light on what they might be worth to a collector? My thoughts are that they are quite rare but standby to be better informed.
    Ta.

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  2. Gino by any chance? Going by the rockets underneath
     
  3. Pretty sure people were paying up to £100 for these after they started getting scarce.

    So who knows what someone would pay now..
     
  4. hofnerite

    hofnerite UKFR Stash Photo 2018 Winner! Supports UKFR

    Really? :eek:

    They were lovely rockets back in the day but they weren't that good!
     
  5. They had a very high RRP for the time as well, was around £50 or £55.

    I think it was more poeple wondering if anything would ever match it at the time when it scarpered, bit the the old spec Mars gear.

    Bet you won't find a Boneshaker less than £100!
     
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  6. danielpyronutter

    danielpyronutter Pro Firer/Crew Supports UKFR

    Me and Tony fired one last year and I must say it was stunning, best rocket I've seen.
     
  7. hofnerite

    hofnerite UKFR Stash Photo 2018 Winner! Supports UKFR

    Kimbolton Glow worm is probably the closest currently available I'd say.
     
  8. danielpyronutter

    danielpyronutter Pro Firer/Crew Supports UKFR

    Yea it's like a mini version
     
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  9. Tinderbox

    Tinderbox Pro Firer/Crew

    Very basic comp' in those headers. Charcoal based BP formula with 12% ferro-ti.
     
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  10. danielpyronutter

    danielpyronutter Pro Firer/Crew Supports UKFR

    Don't know why companies can't make them like that anymore then.:(
     
  11. They’d be 1.1g I believe
     
  12. danielpyronutter

    danielpyronutter Pro Firer/Crew Supports UKFR

    Flash content?
     
  13. Tinderbox

    Tinderbox Pro Firer/Crew

    You could easily reproduce The King and have it 1.3g. All down to NEC. The King was an amazing rocket but nothing that couldn't be done again. The formula is one of the simplest to produce and very cheap. It's what's know as the firefly effect or more poetically Majestic Arc Transformation as used in Japanese pyrotechny. Charcoal dominated BP with titanium or ferrotitanium and a delay agent for the staggered ignition of metal particles. I recall reading sulphate of barium in one firefly formula.
     
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  14. paul s

    paul s Supports UKFR

    Interesting.
    After these original, and impressive Kings there were/are numerous, inferior copies.
    I wonder why it has not been copied better?
     
  15. Tinderbox

    Tinderbox Pro Firer/Crew

    Yes, I don't understand why it hasn't been reproduced in Cat3 either? I am guessing because it has a tendency to cause burning dross to hit the deck? Just a guess. I had some shells a few years ago from Sun Song that looked pretty much identical. Have a look into the firefly effect I mentioned. Surprisingly basic for such a stunning effect.
     
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  16. paul s

    paul s Supports UKFR

    The original King certainly burned back down to ground in calm conditions.
     
  17. Tinderbox

    Tinderbox Pro Firer/Crew

    That's your answer then. can't be having burning material drifting to ground in Cat3 - though it still happens.