No Ignition Despite WPS Tiny Continuity Reading

Discussion in 'Firing Systems And Fusing Fireworks' started by EViS, Jun 5, 2018.

  1. Jon

    Jon Pro Firer/Crew

    Just be aware not all PP3s are born equal, different manuacturers differ in spec, so you want one that has a good current source abiity!
     
  2. K9Girl

    K9Girl Batteries not included Supports UKFR

    Didn’t Energizer Industrial come out top in a test by Easy Pyro?
     
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  3. Jon

    Jon Pro Firer/Crew

    Yes energiser came out on top just after I bulk bought Duracell :mad:
     
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  4. Here's a helpful resource on using clip igniters: http://remotefiringsystems.com/blog/talon-nonpyrogen-clip-igniters-/

    I have used them successfully in the past (several years ago now), but they are much more time consuming if you're doing it "correctly." Rarely have I seen anyone who just clips them on a fuse and lets them hang there have much luck for an actual display. Might be OK for testing, but once you pick up the product and move it, all bets are off unless you've properly secured the clip igniter to the device so that it can't flop around.
     
  5. K9Girl

    K9Girl Batteries not included Supports UKFR

    Good video, go to 2.10 for what he says about the filament and how not to mess it up :)

     
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  6. Jon

    Jon Pro Firer/Crew

    Just with any igniter whether it be a professional or talon, always tape it into position and make sure you have taped a good amount of the cable as a strain relief just incase some idiot (normally me) trips over the cable during setup. This prevents it getting ripped off the cake or destroying the thin wire.
     
  7. pyrobrit

    pyrobrit Pro Firer/Crew

    I buy kodak alkaline from Poundland for all my systems. They have worked as well as the Duracell and energisers i have had in the past.
     
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  8. Jon

    Jon Pro Firer/Crew

    I have upgraded everything to Lipo so I don't have that issue anymore!
     
  9. Did these batteries work with Ematch or Talons ?
    The datasheet in the link says a pulse of up to 0.4Amps.
    Seems too low for Firework use, but maybe they work in reality.
    I think Jon meant rechargeable lithium (LiPo), the link looks like non rechargeable lithium batteries.
     
  10. Matthewl, I use these non rechargeable lithium batteries in all my FireStorm, RhinoFire, Blaster One and RF Remotech modules. I do not have Cobra units with the LiPo conversion. All units whatever they are firing be it e-match or talons fire successfully. Fortunately my primary FireStorm & RhinoFire units have settings to increase the pulse length. I prefer using non rechargeable batteries as I am not confident in charging up between shows (often back to back during BFN season). I bought these from batterystation due to the cold weather and damp resistance. I factor the cost of new PP3 into each show and after the show use the used batteries for testing and shows for friends and families not the public. In addition and back to EViS's original post, I do the maths per cue to ensure enough volts using the following calculator https://easypyro.com/calc/ I wonder if 8 talons in series or parallel was too much for a single cue.
     
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  11. Thanks for the info, sounds like you’ve put these batteries through their paces.
     
  12. Jon

    Jon Pro Firer/Crew

    I have to confess I meant the Cobra recharge ones ;)